Retiring the ListServ

[Richard Blewett]

Hi All,



We are currently going through an infrastructure review and due to the
minimal traffic on the listserv we have decided to decommission the server.
The world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, forums and other
discussion mediums and inline with that the usage of the listservs has
dropped to a trickle. The listserv will go offline on 30th September so if
you need information from the archives you have some time to get it



Thank you for your past involvement with the lists



Regards



Richard Blewett

CTO

DevelopMentor


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[Sébastien Lorion]

For those interested, a new google group has been created:
http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet. I am subscribed to both
dotnet-clr and advanced-dotnet and given the amount of traffic of both, I
don't really see the point of creating 2 different groups. If you feel
otherwise, just say it :)

Sébastien

Post by Richard Blewett
Hi All,
We are currently going through an infrastructure review and due to the
minimal traffic on the listserv we have decided to decommission the server.
The world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, forums and other
discussion mediums and inline with that the usage of the listservs has
dropped to a trickle. The listserv will go offline on 30th September so if
you need information from the archives you have some time to get it
Thank you for your past involvement with the lists
Regards
Richard Blewett
CTO
DevelopMentor
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[gerry_lowry (alliston ontario canada)]

imho, web logs may be the new kid on the block but listserv will always be king.

I'd rather listserv visit my inbox than have to jump from blog to blog even with the help of RSS.

In most cases, plain text is sufficient, fast, and easiest on bandwidth and storage requirements.

I've my listserv messages available locally even when our cable goes down as it did this past Friday.
One broken fibre cable deprived an entire neighbourhood of Internet for half a day.



LOW VOLUME
----------------------
Low volume is not a problem imo ... members come, members go ... many lurk, some contribute
by asking, others by answering ... threads come, threads end ... when there's something important
to someone, she/he spawns a new thread.

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Gerry Lowry, Principal
Ability Business Computer Services ~~ Because it's your Business, our Experience Counts!
68 John W. Taylor Avenue
Alliston · Ontario · Canada · L9R 0E1
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[Chris Tavares]

The issue isn't low volume per se. But remember that our kind host is a
business, and they have to pay licensing fees for the ListServ software to
host it. When this list was hopping it was a great benefit to their
business, so it made sense. These days, on the other hand, does it make
sense to pay what is probably a noticeable chunk of change to keep mailing
lists alive that get four messages a month?

-Chris

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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [DOTNET-CLR] Retiring the ListServ

imho, web logs may be the new kid on the block but listserv will always be
king.

I'd rather listserv visit my inbox than have to jump from blog to blog even
with the help of RSS.

In most cases, plain text is sufficient, fast, and easiest on bandwidth and
storage requirements.

I've my listserv messages available locally even when our cable goes down as
it did this past Friday.
One broken fibre cable deprived an entire neighbourhood of Internet for half
a day.



LOW VOLUME
----------------------
Low volume is not a problem imo ... members come, members go ... many lurk,
some contribute
by asking, others by answering ... threads come, threads end ... when
there's something important
to someone, she/he spawns a new thread.

___________________________________________________________________________
Gerry Lowry, Principal
Ability Business Computer Services ~~ Because it's your Business, our
Experience Counts!
68 John W. Taylor Avenue
Alliston . Ontario . Canada . L9R 0E1
***@abilitybusinesscomputerservices.com

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[William A. Rowe, Jr.]

Post by Richard Blewett
Thank you for your past involvement with the lists

Richard,

thanks to you and yours for your sponsorship and good wishes to all.

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[Mark Hurd]

It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the offer(s) to
move the lists work out), but for those of you would like to continue
with a normal email list albeit with more traffic, including VB.NET,
C# and .NET general topics and the odd "flame war and such childish
things" but mostly limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially
inviting you to join the .NET Australia mailing list:

To subscribe, send an empty message to ausdotnet-***@lists.codify.com.

It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes):

http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist

To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low volume
lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so you do get useful
responses to advanced queries.

Regards,
Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion

Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created
http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the
group.
Sébastien

Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ...
Cheers,
Greg
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion

I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this

list

has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember,

no

flame wars or such childish things.
Sébastien
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <

the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums
and other discussion mediums.

Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of
this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever?

DevelopMentor

could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval.
Lack of exit strategy... painful every time.

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[Mark Hurd]

It looks like we're moving to Google Groups (unless the offer(s) to
move the lists work out), but for those of you would like to continue
with a normal email list albeit with more traffic, including VB.NET,
C# and .NET general topics and the odd "flame war and such childish
things" but mostly limited to Australian Fridays, I'm unofficially
inviting you to join the .NET Australia mailing list:

To subscribe, send an empty message to ausdotnet-***@lists.codify.com.

It is mirrored in this Google group (mostly for archival purposes):

http://groups.google.com/group/ausdotnetlist

To reiterate, this is NOT a replacement to these advanced low volume
lists, but there are MVPs on the Australian list so you do get useful
responses to advanced queries.

Regards,
Mark Hurd, B.Sc.(Ma.)(Hons.)

(Resent: I sent this to all three lists at once and it seems to have
been dropped.)

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion

Well, if everyone agree with that, then I created
http://groups.google.com/group/advanced-dotnet and you can simply join the
group.
Sébastien

Well we can always just create a google group and move on over ...
Cheers,
Greg
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Sébastien Lorion

I agree with Per here, moving to Google Groups would be great as this

list

has many knowledgeable people contributing and as far as I can remember,

no

flame wars or such childish things.
Sébastien
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Per Bolmstedt

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:31:37 +0100, Richard Blewett <

the world has moved on from mail reflectors to blogs, web forums
and other discussion mediums.

Yeah, like Google Groups. Why not just migrate the list there instead of
this overly dramatic adieu? Or to Yahoo! Groups, or whatever?

DevelopMentor

could still be moderators, to keep the stamp of approval.
Lack of exit strategy... painful every time.

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